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 Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/laws_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm
The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases – the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
2
The pharmaceutical investment industry was artificially created and
strategically developed over an entire century by the same investment
groups that control the global petrochemical and chemical industries.
3
The huge profits of the pharmaceutical industry are based on the
patenting of new drugs. These patents essentially allow drug
manufacturers to arbitrarily define the profits for their products.
4
The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body –
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
5
A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
6
To further expand their pharmaceutical market, the drug companies are
continuously looking for new applications (indications) for the use of
drugs they already market. For example, Bayer's pain pill Aspirin is
now taken by 50 million healthy US citizens under the illusion it will
prevent heart attacks.
7
Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer – but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
8
The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998). This fact is no
surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
9
While the promotion and expansion of diseases increase the market of
the pharmaceutical investment industry - prevention and root cause
treatment of diseases decrease long-term profitability; therefore,
they are avoided or even obstructed by this industry.
10
Worst of all, the eradication of diseases is by its very nature
incompatible with and diametrically opposed to the interests of the
pharmaceutical investment industry. The eradication of diseases now
considered as potential drug markets will destroy billions of
investment dollars and eventually will eliminate this entire industry.
11
Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
12
Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the
pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with
defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the
fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success
of the pharmaceutical investment business.
13
Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that effectively
prevent diseases are incompatible with the very nature of the
pharmaceutical "business with disease."
14
To protect the strategic development of its investment business
against the threat from effective, natural and non-patentable
therapies, the pharmaceutical industry has – over an entire century -
used the most unscrupulous methods, such as:
(1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of
people. It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the
human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for
connective tissue stability and disease prevention.
(2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is
through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread
lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances – molecules
that have been used by Nature for millennia.
(3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural
health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed
its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading
drug export nations.
15
The pharmaceutical "business with disease" is the largest deception
and fraud business in human history. The product "health" promised by
drug companies is not delivered to millions of patients. Instead, the
"products" most often delivered are the opposite: new diseases and
frequently, death.
16
The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the
elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These
natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of
choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political
and media opposition of the world's largest investment industry.
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Rich Shewmaker
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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| Quote: | The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases - the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
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Yes, profits for the shareholders is the number one priority of the
pharmaceutical companies. This is why they are so tightly regulated by
federal laws and government agencies. Profit is the priority of supplement
manufacturers and retailers, too. Isn't it a shame that the FDA cannot
protect us from their greed, too?
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2
The pharmaceutical investment industry was artificially created and
strategically developed over an entire century by the same investment
groups that control the global petrochemical and chemical industries.
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So?
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3
The huge profits of the pharmaceutical industry are based on the
patenting of new drugs. These patents essentially allow drug
manufacturers to arbitrarily define the profits for their products.
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Yes, but they must compete in a free market with competing products. Have
you priced herbal supplements lately?
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The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body -
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
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There will be plenty of wild, natural disease to supply the pharmaceutical
markets for the forseeable future. There is no need to manufacture new
diseases or to fail to collect on the profitability of producing cures for
some of them.
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5
A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
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This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid medicine
bashers.
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To further expand their pharmaceutical market, the drug companies are
continuously looking for new applications (indications) for the use of
drugs they already market. For example, Bayer's pain pill Aspirin is
now taken by 50 million healthy US citizens under the illusion it will
prevent heart attacks.
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How old are you, John? Do you have a family history of heart attack? Perhaps
you should be taking a daily aspirin. Sure, Bayer would like for you to take
their brand, but those $4.20 for 500 tablets generic brands work just as
well. In any case, if you have chest pain for more than five minutes, take
an aspirin after you call the ambulance. It may just be the best 0.85c you
ever spent.
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Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer - but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
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Have you ever heard of relative risk. Might it not be worth raising your
risk of cancer by 0.5% to reduce your risk of heart attack by 35%?
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The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998). This fact is no
surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
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"Natural" molecules are no different from synthetic molecules. Your body
does not care, for example, whether a molecule of acetylsalicytic acid came
from that aspirin or from the bark of a white willow tree.
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While the promotion and expansion of diseases increase the market of
the pharmaceutical investment industry - prevention and root cause
treatment of diseases decrease long-term profitability; therefore,
they are avoided or even obstructed by this industry.
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Bullshit! You've already mentioned a class of pharmaceuticals that are sold
specifically for prevention...statins. Aspirin, too.
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Worst of all, the eradication of diseases is by its very nature
incompatible with and diametrically opposed to the interests of the
pharmaceutical investment industry. The eradication of diseases now
considered as potential drug markets will destroy billions of
investment dollars and eventually will eliminate this entire industry.
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Eradication of diseases is difficult and rare, and hardly enough threat to
the pharmaceutical industries to come up in their boardroom discussions.
Perhaps though, you are familiar with the eradication of smallpox, and the
coming eradication of polio through...look out John, here it
comes...VACCINATION!
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Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
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The processes to manufacture vitamins can be patented, and the brand names
for combinations of them can be registered as trademarks. Most vitamin
products are manufactured and sold profitably by the pharm giants. Even the
products of the smaller "natural supplement" companies are mostly
manufactured and packaged under contract by the larger pharmaceutical
companies.
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Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the
pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with
defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the
fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success
of the pharmaceutical investment business.
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Nonsense. See #11
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Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that effectively
prevent diseases are incompatible with the very nature of the
pharmaceutical "business with disease."
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More paranoid bullshit.
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To protect the strategic development of its investment business
against the threat from effective, natural and non-patentable
therapies, the pharmaceutical industry has - over an entire century -
used the most unscrupulous methods, such as:
(1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of
people. It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the
human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for
connective tissue stability and disease prevention.
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Who is withholding this information. It's taught in high-school health
classes and is available in any nutrition text, and on hundreds of websites.
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(2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is
through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread
lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances - molecules
that have been used by Nature for millennia.
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Any substance active enough to have effects is likely to also have side
effects. This includes natural and synthetic molecules alike. Get over it.
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(3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural
health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed
its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading
drug export nations.
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"Banning by law the dissemination of information" would violate the
principle of free speech--unlikely in the U.S.
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The pharmaceutical "business with disease" is the largest deception
and fraud business in human history. The product "health" promised by
drug companies is not delivered to millions of patients. Instead, the
"products" most often delivered are the opposite: new diseases and
frequently, death.
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More paranoia.
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The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the
elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These
natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of
choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political
and media opposition of the world's largest investment industry.
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You are repeating yourself. It wasn't true the first time you said it, and
it's not true now.
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Kim
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2004 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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| Quote: | The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the
elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These
natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of
choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political
and media opposition of the world's largest investment industry.
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The choice of millions? What diseases are these millions suffering from?
Can you tell us how these alt practitioners are treating diabetics,
scleroderma, women with fibroid tumors, endometriosis, Lupus and the mental
illnesses? How do they deal with hypochondriacs and those with
psychosomatic illnesses? Just wondering.....
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Peter Moran
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Some of this is true. It is not true, as Rich points out, that they are
scared of the "alternatives", they simply take them over.
What is omitted is that the share market is also the biggest funder of the
basic biological research that leads to new treatment methods and the better
understanding of disease processes. An example of how it works - a
University researcher in Australia discovered an important mechanism that
allows the HIV virus to release itself from infected cells. The only way
he could get funding for ongoing research was to patent his ideas, form his
own drug company and raise venture capital from the share market. This can
only happen if those risking their funds have some assurance of hefty
profits if a marketable product ensues. ( Governments could fund such
research but then everyone complains about the higher taxes.)
Those quacks who have patented their medicines could do the same, and prove
their claims, if they truly believed in them.
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Carole
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:33 am Post subject: Re: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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"Rich Shewmaker" <rich@ilhawaii.net> wrote in message news:<y7idnYQExJt-e8zdRVn-sA@ilhawaii.net>...
| Quote: | "john" <whaleto@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1ad65102.0403120458.60cd7a55@posting.google.com...
The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/laws_of_the_pharm
aceutical_industry.htm
The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases - the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
Yes, profits for the shareholders is the number one priority of the
pharmaceutical companies. This is why they are so tightly regulated by
federal laws and government agencies. Profit is the priority of supplement
manufacturers and retailers, too. Isn't it a shame that the FDA cannot
protect us from their greed, too?
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You hit it on the head ...profits for shareholders is the main driving
motivation. Tightly regulated - yes and no.
THE PHARMACEUTICAL DRUG RACKET
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/research/drug.html
Ruesch cited Morris Bealle who wrote that the FDA "is used primarily
for the perversion of justice by cracking down on all who endanger the
profits of the Drug Trust". (68)
Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/health.htm |
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Jeff
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| Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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| Quote: | The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/laws_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm
The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases - the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
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Please show us another model that works. The pharmaceutical industry, the
government and private foundations have been able to decrease the death rate
for pediatric cancers by 75%. And the death rate for polio, mumps, rubella,
measles, small pox, etc., by 100%.
No one is suggesting that the drug companies are our friends. But, with
proper regulation, the system works.
Do you really think auto companies, oil companies, alternative health
companies, hospitals, the phone company, or any other company is not driven
by profits? Come on, get real. Money is what drives people to work and the
economy. Russia tried the socialist experiment and it failed.
Do you really think all those companies that sell "natural remedies" and
vitamins and stuff are doing it for your health or their bank accounts?
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Jeff
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| Quote: | "Rich Shewmaker" <rich@ilhawaii.net> wrote in message
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"john" <whaleto@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/laws_of_the_pharm
aceutical_industry.htm
The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases - the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
Yes, profits for the shareholders is the number one priority of the
pharmaceutical companies. This is why they are so tightly regulated by
federal laws and government agencies. Profit is the priority of
supplement
manufacturers and retailers, too. Isn't it a shame that the FDA cannot
protect us from their greed, too?
You hit it on the head ...profits for shareholders is the main driving
motivation. Tightly regulated - yes and no.
THE PHARMACEUTICAL DRUG RACKET
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/research/drug.html
Ruesch cited Morris Bealle who wrote that the FDA "is used primarily
for the perversion of justice by cracking down on all who endanger the
profits of the Drug Trust". (6
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And I can cite John and yourself who wrote some many stupid things. The FDA
is far from perfect. And so are drug companies.
Please provide an alternate model that works as well.
Jeff
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| Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:03 am Post subject: Re: The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry |
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"Kim" <Kim@nospamm.edu> wrote in message
| Quote: | The choice of millions? What diseases are these millions suffering from?
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Heart disease, cure or reversal found by Pauling decades ago
http://www.whale.to/w/nutrition.html using vitamins
Also herbs will reverse heart disease, and diet
http://www.whale.to/w/herbs.html
Alzheimer's. Millions suffering because they wont use chelation
therapy discovered 50 years ago, and wont tell anyone aluminium,
pesticides and mercury amalgam are main causes
http://www.whale.to/a/alzheimer.html
Cancer. Dozens of non-toxic non-pharma therapies have been suppressed
or "ignored" for 100 years. Chemo & radiation are the worst two
therapies, even worse than doing nothing as Jones discovered 30 years
ago
Also vitamin C will prevent cot-death, known for decades.
You can get the lot here http://www.whale.to/m/therapies.html
Same for arthritis
That covers the main diseases people suffer from.
Others like autism mostly come from drugs like MMR, DPT. 500,000 of
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Steve Harris sbharris@RO
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| Quote: | "john" <whaleto@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
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The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body -
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
There will be plenty of wild, natural disease to supply the pharmaceutical
markets for the forseeable future. There is no need to manufacture new
diseases or to fail to collect on the profitability of producing cures for
some of them.
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COMMENT:
Indeed. Simple expansion of the population means an expanding
pharamaceutical market, even at the same level of disease.
The subtext here is that John is assuming that with proper herbs and
nutrition the human body is ageless and immortal. Not to say
impervious to trauma, injury, and self-poisoning. Otherwise, of
course, you're guaranteed plenty of medical problems which require
pharmaceutical treatments.
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A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid medicine
bashers.
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COMMENT:
It is indeed a curious argument, as it assumes that there exist drugs
which cure diseases which are being suppressed. But that would require
everybody be in on the conspiracy when it came to (say) high blood
pressure, but that somehow the pharm cartel geeked on monopoly when it
came to acne, leukemia, and infection. Say what? How does that work,
John? And when you're done, perhaps you can explain the expansion of
the veterinary pharm industry right along side the human one. You
think maybe Nestle/Purina has a deal to slip disease-causing stuff
into dog or cat food so that (say) Abbott or Baxter or Ft. Dodge can
make a buck treating them?
| Quote: | Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer - but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
Have you ever heard of relative risk. Might it not be worth raising your
risk of cancer by 0.5% to reduce your risk of heart attack by 35%?
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Comment:
Don't play up to John's lies. No controlled study of any statin drug,
including those running 5 years or more, has shown any increase in
cancer. There is not reason to imagine that statin-caused hepatoma in
rodents applies to people. Everything causes hepatoma in rodents.
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The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998).
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COMMENT
The "factoid" has been repeatedly debunked on this forum. It simply
isn't true.
| Quote: | This fact is no
surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
"Natural" molecules are no different from synthetic molecules. Your body
does not care, for example, whether a molecule of acetylsalicytic acid came
from that aspirin or from the bark of a white willow tree.
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COMMENT
Since there are no all-natural vitamin C supplement pills on the
market, one wonders whether John takes a multivitamin.
| Quote: | 11
Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
The processes to manufacture vitamins can be patented, and the brand names
for combinations of them can be registered as trademarks. Most vitamin
products are manufactured and sold profitably by the pharm giants. Even the
products of the smaller "natural supplement" companies are mostly
manufactured and packaged under contract by the larger pharmaceutical
companies.
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COMMENT:
Yes, last I checked the vitamin industry was mega-big business.
They've done quite well considering that the pharm cartel is
supposedly trying to put them out of business. In some cases the
businesses are the same, as you say, but not always. For example, most
vitamin E is make by ADM and Cargil. Hoffman LaRoche is now out of
that business. The hilarious thing is that this is due to just what
John was complaining about in the pharm industry-- a cartel of vitamin
manufacturers setting artificially high prices for vitamins. But it
didn't last.
John probably thinks the vitamin E in his supplements is lovingly
extracted from nuts by Keebler Elves in a tree. But if he really knew
where it came from and how it got there, I'm sure he'd be shocked.
| Quote: | 12
Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the
pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with
defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the
fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success
of the pharmaceutical investment business.
Nonsense. See #11
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Indeed.
| Quote: | (1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of
people. It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the
human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for
connective tissue stability and disease prevention.
Who is withholding this information. It's taught in high-school health
classes and is available in any nutrition text, and on hundreds of websites.
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COMMENT: Yeah, but John just learned about it last week while
rereading 20 year old bestselling books by Linus Pauling....
| Quote: | (2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is
through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread
lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances - molecules
that have been used by Nature for millennia.
Any substance active enough to have effects is likely to also have side
effects. This includes natural and synthetic molecules alike. Get over it.
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Can we talk about the side effects of opium, nicotene, and cocaine?
| Quote: | (3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural
health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed
its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading
drug export nations.
"Banning by law the dissemination of information" would violate the
principle of free speech--unlikely in the U.S.
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Unless it was advertising information. There isn't a clear line
between advertising and free speech. In some cases the courts have
decided that it literally depends on the physical distance between the
printed matter and the pill. Or whether or not they are physically
connected. As the flyer or brochure creeps closer and closer to the
bottle, it functions more and more like a brand or label.
The first ammendment doesn't protect you prosecution for fraud when
you tell lies in selling a product. If it did, the first ammendment
would be an impregnable defense in all cases of consumer fraud.
SBH |
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Carole
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
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The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body -
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
There will be plenty of wild, natural disease to supply the pharmaceutical
markets for the forseeable future. There is no need to manufacture new
diseases or to fail to collect on the profitability of producing cures for
some of them.
COMMENT:
Indeed. Simple expansion of the population means an expanding
pharamaceutical market, even at the same level of disease.
The subtext here is that John is assuming that with proper herbs and
nutrition the human body is ageless and immortal. Not to say
impervious to trauma, injury, and self-poisoning. Otherwise, of
course, you're guaranteed plenty of medical problems which require
pharmaceutical treatments.
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No, you got it wrong as usual. People these days don't really know
what good health is and the reason is, they either live in countries
where they can't get an adequate diet, or they live in western society
where they eat devitalised, acid forming diets. If a person is really
healthy they aren't prone to all the degenerative disease which
require pharmaceutical products.
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A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid medicine
bashers.
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For an analytical thinking person like yourself, I find it curious
that you swallow the orthodox brand of medicine without querying its
foundations, and examing contradictions.
| Quote: | COMMENT:
It is indeed a curious argument, as it assumes that there exist drugs
which cure diseases which are being suppressed. But that would require
everybody be in on the conspiracy when it came to (say) high blood
pressure, but that somehow the pharm cartel geeked on monopoly when it
came to acne, leukemia, and infection. Say what? How does that work,
John? And when you're done, perhaps you can explain the expansion of
the veterinary pharm industry right along side the human one. You
think maybe Nestle/Purina has a deal to slip disease-causing stuff
into dog or cat food so that (say) Abbott or Baxter or Ft. Dodge can
make a buck treating them?
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No everybody isn't in on the conspiracy. It is a top down conspiracy
where only those at the top are purposely going against the best
interests of health. The rest are just fitting into the system,
protecting their jobs, trying to build some status within an industry,
doing what they've been trained to do since they were kids. However,
there comes a point where all the dissenting voices have to be
listened to and their arguments examined.
| Quote: | Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer - but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
Have you ever heard of relative risk. Might it not be worth raising your
risk of cancer by 0.5% to reduce your risk of heart attack by 35%?
Comment:
Don't play up to John's lies. No controlled study of any statin drug,
including those running 5 years or more, has shown any increase in
cancer. There is not reason to imagine that statin-caused hepatoma in
rodents applies to people. Everything causes hepatoma in rodents.
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The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998).
COMMENT
The "factoid" has been repeatedly debunked on this forum. It simply
isn't true.
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Steve, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
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surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
"Natural" molecules are no different from synthetic molecules. Your body
does not care, for example, whether a molecule of acetylsalicytic acid came
from that aspirin or from the bark of a white willow tree.
COMMENT
Since there are no all-natural vitamin C supplement pills on the
market, one wonders whether John takes a multivitamin.\
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Splitting hairs, hmmm? Always a useful strategy when you know you've
lost the argument.
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Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
The processes to manufacture vitamins can be patented, and the brand names
for combinations of them can be registered as trademarks. Most vitamin
products are manufactured and sold profitably by the pharm giants. Even the
products of the smaller "natural supplement" companies are mostly
manufactured and packaged under contract by the larger pharmaceutical
companies.
COMMENT:
Yes, last I checked the vitamin industry was mega-big business.
They've done quite well considering that the pharm cartel is
supposedly trying to put them out of business. In some cases the
businesses are the same, as you say, but not always. For example, most
vitamin E is make by ADM and Cargil. Hoffman LaRoche is now out of
that business. The hilarious thing is that this is due to just what
John was complaining about in the pharm industry-- a cartel of vitamin
manufacturers setting artificially high prices for vitamins. But it
didn't last.
John probably thinks the vitamin E in his supplements is lovingly
extracted from nuts by Keebler Elves in a tree. But if he really knew
where it came from and how it got there, I'm sure he'd be shocked.
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Whether the nutritional products are produced in a lab isn't the
point.
The main thing is, do they work? And what the pharm mob don't like, is
people resorting to nutritional products - because they can't be
patented.
BTW have you looked at Boyd E. Graves, an attorney and a graduate from
the Naval Academy in Annapolis' website, where he claims "AIDS is
ethnic weapon developed in the U.S." He has a patent number for the
creation of the virus, and another patent number for the one off cure.
http://www.boydgraves.com
A bit different from your in depth research where you claimed AIDS
come out of the environment.
Just remember Steve, its not how much research you do, but whether it
is truly unbiased. Unfortunately, something that can't be said about
yours.
Carole
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COMMENT:
Indeed. Simple expansion of the population means an expanding
pharamaceutical market, even at the same level of disease.
The subtext here is that John is assuming that with proper herbs and
nutrition the human body is ageless and immortal. Not to say
impervious to trauma, injury, and self-poisoning. Otherwise, of
course, you're guaranteed plenty of medical problems which require
pharmaceutical treatments.
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You can't mind read you moron.
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5
A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid medicine
bashers.
COMMENT:
It is indeed a curious argument, as it assumes that there exist drugs
which cure diseases which are being suppressed. But that would require
everybody be in on the conspiracy when it came to (say) high blood
pressure, but that somehow the pharm cartel geeked on monopoly when it
came to acne, leukemia, and infection. Say what? How does that work,
John?
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Do some research http://www.whale.to/a/hoaxpharma.html It doesn't
require everyone to be in on it and you know that. Do you think every
sucker who went to war in Iraq knew it had nothing to do with Bad
Saddam or WMD? The soldiers are clueless as to war politics just like
the pharma soldiers are clueless about medical politics, just like the
population are clueless about world politics or any politics.
| Quote: | And when you're done, perhaps you can explain the expansion of
the veterinary pharm industry right along side the human one. You
think maybe Nestle/Purina has a deal to slip disease-causing stuff
into dog or cat food so that (say) Abbott or Baxter or Ft. Dodge can
make a buck treating them?
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Pharma vets have a monopoly like you pharma docs. You all work for
the drug cartel. With all those doggy and horsy vacs you don't need
to add any more poisons. Look how your ilk Rumsfeld got aspartame
approved http://www.whale.to/a/rumsfeld_h.html and he was behind the
Swine Flu poisoning, quite a little Nazi isn't he, he even looks like
the clone or son of one.
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The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998).
COMMENT
The "factoid" has been repeatedly debunked on this forum. It simply
isn't true.
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No it hasn't. Just saying it has doesn't make it so. Also when you
factor in the 600,000 people who die of cancer after being denied
access to life saving non-toxic non-cartel medicine, after mostly
being given chemo when in most cases it has no value--leading to
shortened lifespan, as Dr Jones proved in 1969, then it would more
likely put you as number 1 cause of death, easily.
Plus you friends in the war industry lie Rumsfeld who start wars to
lower the population etc
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Before anyone gets the idea that hubbca has a clue, I suggest you read her
conspiracy web pages. The articles claiming that the earth is hollow,
critters from space are visiting, etc, etc should be proof enought that
you are reading the rants of a kook.
Move over Francis E. Dec, here comes Carole!
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How old are you, John? Do you have a family history of heart attack?
Perhaps
you should be taking a daily aspirin. Sure, Bayer would like for you to
take
their brand, but those $4.20 for 500 tablets generic brands work just as
well. In any case, if you have chest pain for more than five minutes, take
an aspirin after you call the ambulance. It may just be the best 0.85c you
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If aspirin did indeed effect first heart attacks like you say, then why did
it take many thousands of people to 'see this effect' ?
Also how does this effect my situation since I am only 1 person, what %age
would you say aspirin going to reduce my changes of first heart attack?
I'd rather take a daily dose of vitamin c, as there's no evidence that I
know of, that a daily vitamin c pill increases the risk of pancreatic cancer
like aspirin does.
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/laws_of_the_pharm
aceutical_industry.htm
The main principles governing the pharmaceutical "business with
disease." It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical
industry to prevent common diseases - the maintenance and expansion of
diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.
1
The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the
profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving
force of this industry.
Yes, profits for the shareholders is the number one priority of the
pharmaceutical companies. This is why they are so tightly regulated by
federal laws and government agencies. Profit is the priority of supplement
manufacturers and retailers, too. Isn't it a shame that the FDA cannot
protect us from their greed, too?
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Indeed, something should be done about this, and is, it's called NCCAM.
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The pharmaceutical investment industry was artificially created and
strategically developed over an entire century by the same investment
groups that control the global petrochemical and chemical industries.
So?
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So we know that a bunch of Nazi arseholes run it. Proves *nothing*
| Quote: | 3
The huge profits of the pharmaceutical industry are based on the
patenting of new drugs. These patents essentially allow drug
manufacturers to arbitrarily define the profits for their products.
Yes, but they must compete in a free market with competing products. Have
you priced herbal supplements lately?
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I know that the herbal supplement industry is costing my country a lot in
eco damage.
They should bog off and grow their own, rather than rape the countryside.
I also know that currently there is a war going on with herbal supplement
manufacturers and big pharma.
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The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body -
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
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Are you saying this isn't a powerful argument?
| Quote: | There will be plenty of wild, natural disease to supply the pharmaceutical
markets for the forseeable future. There is no need to manufacture new
diseases or to fail to collect on the profitability of producing cures for
some of them.
5
A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid
medicine
bashers.
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This _is_ simply true, where's the cures? Or have you not noticed there aint
none?
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To further expand their pharmaceutical market, the drug companies are
continuously looking for new applications (indications) for the use of
drugs they already market. For example, Bayer's pain pill Aspirin is
now taken by 50 million healthy US citizens under the illusion it will
prevent heart attacks.
How old are you, John? Do you have a family history of heart attack?
Perhaps
you should be taking a daily aspirin. Sure, Bayer would like for you to
take
their brand, but those $4.20 for 500 tablets generic brands work just as
well. In any case, if you have chest pain for more than five minutes, take
an aspirin after you call the ambulance. It may just be the best 0.85c you
ever spent.
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Aspirin for heart attacks bawahahahahaha!
There's other better supplements with less side effects and risks, for
instance a glass of fresh orange juice a day or a few g of vitamin c.
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Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer - but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
Have you ever heard of relative risk. Might it not be worth raising your
risk of cancer by 0.5% to reduce your risk of heart attack by 35%?
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Or in the case of vitamin c, reduce your risk of heart disease by 100%?
| Quote: | rescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998). This fact is no
surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
"Natural" molecules are no different from synthetic molecules. Your body
does not care, for example, whether a molecule of acetylsalicytic acid
came
from that aspirin or from the bark of a white willow tree.
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Natural v synthetic, maybe so, but your body sure does care what it is mixed
with, in what form and in what ratios (See the CARET study) vs recent study
on beta carotene showing no increase in cancer rates amongst smokers taking
'natural beta carotene.'
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While the promotion and expansion of diseases increase the market of
the pharmaceutical investment industry - prevention and root cause
treatment of diseases decrease long-term profitability; therefore,
they are avoided or even obstructed by this industry.
Bullshit! You've already mentioned a class of pharmaceuticals that are
sold
specifically for prevention...statins. Aspirin, too.
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Where's the data that shows statins reduce mortality from heart disease?
Aspirin is bullshit, have you seen the size of the sample space they needed
to show this effect (prevention of first heart attacks)?
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Worst of all, the eradication of diseases is by its very nature
incompatible with and diametrically opposed to the interests of the
pharmaceutical investment industry. The eradication of diseases now
considered as potential drug markets will destroy billions of
investment dollars and eventually will eliminate this entire industry.
Eradication of diseases is difficult and rare, and hardly enough threat to
the pharmaceutical industries to come up in their boardroom discussions.
Perhaps though, you are familiar with the eradication of smallpox, and the
coming eradication of polio through...look out John, here it
comes...VACCINATION!
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If the selection is towards palliation and profit then these 'cures' will
rarely materialise.
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Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
The processes to manufacture vitamins can be patented, and the brand names
for combinations of them can be registered as trademarks. Most vitamin
products are manufactured and sold profitably by the pharm giants. Even
the
products of the smaller "natural supplement" companies are mostly
manufactured and packaged under contract by the larger pharmaceutical
companies.
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Most vitamin products are a whole lot less profitable than the end result of
dealing with a terminal illness.
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Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the
pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with
defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the
fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success
of the pharmaceutical investment business.
Nonsense. See #11
13
Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that effectively
prevent diseases are incompatible with the very nature of the
pharmaceutical "business with disease."
More paranoid bullshit.
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If you take typically vitamin c, and assume that it prevents heart disease
by 100%, then what you have is a market for vitamin c.
What you don't have is a market for statins and all other things. End of
research, end up a billion dollar industry and end of jobs careers,
charities and a whole lot of other things.
Same applies for cancer research.
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To protect the strategic development of its investment business
against the threat from effective, natural and non-patentable
therapies, the pharmaceutical industry has - over an entire century -
used the most unscrupulous methods, such as:
(1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of
people. It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the
human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for
connective tissue stability and disease prevention.
Who is withholding this information. It's taught in high-school health
classes and is available in any nutrition text, and on hundreds of
websites.
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They are withholding information.
'We have statins and profits to recoup, no need ascorbate.'
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(2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is
through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread
lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances - molecules
that have been used by Nature for millennia.
Any substance active enough to have effects is likely to also have side
effects. This includes natural and synthetic molecules alike. Get over
it. |
Here we go with the big dose is poison argument, even water will kill you in
big enough doses.
Even so, a in high enough doses vitamin c dose will cause side effects, but
will it increase your risk of cancer?
| Quote: | (3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural
health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed
its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading
drug export nations.
"Banning by law the dissemination of information" would violate the
principle of free speech--unlikely in the U.S.
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This comment made me laugh very much, considering the track record of the US
at the moment, where is the free speech? Oh please..
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The pharmaceutical "business with disease" is the largest deception
and fraud business in human history. The product "health" promised by
drug companies is not delivered to millions of patients. Instead, the
"products" most often delivered are the opposite: new diseases and
frequently, death.
More paranoia.
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Paranoia well spent.
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The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the
elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These
natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of
choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political
and media opposition of the world's largest investment industry.
You are repeating yourself. It wasn't true the first time you said it, and
it's not true now.
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Heart disease -> vitamin c (no statins or whatever)
100's of billions they will be out of pocket.
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The Laws of the
Pharmaceutical Industry
4
The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body -
but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and
expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the
pharmaceutical industry.
There will be plenty of wild, natural disease to supply the
pharmaceutical
markets for the forseeable future. There is no need to manufacture new
diseases or to fail to collect on the profitability of producing cures
for
some of them.
COMMENT:
Indeed. Simple expansion of the population means an expanding
pharamaceutical market, even at the same level of disease.
The subtext here is that John is assuming that with proper herbs and
nutrition the human body is ageless and immortal. Not to say
impervious to trauma, injury, and self-poisoning. Otherwise, of
course, you're guaranteed plenty of medical problems which require
pharmaceutical treatments.
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That is simplistic, if you consider the curves for many products that will
be pushed out of action because of a potential cheaper product then your
overall market is reduced.
The market may be increased with respect to one product, but other
treatments would become useless. You would be shooting yourself in the foot.
| Quote: | 5
A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs
that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of
diseases. This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today
have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.
This is simply not true, though it is a popular fantasy of paranoid
medicine
bashers.
COMMENT:
It is indeed a curious argument, as it assumes that there exist drugs
which cure diseases which are being suppressed. But that would require
everybody be in on the conspiracy when it came to (say) high blood
pressure, but that somehow the pharm cartel geeked on monopoly when it
came to acne, leukemia, and infection. Say what? How does that work,
John? And when you're done, perhaps you can explain the expansion of
the veterinary pharm industry right along side the human one. You
think maybe Nestle/Purina has a deal to slip disease-causing stuff
into dog or cat food so that (say) Abbott or Baxter or Ft. Dodge can
make a buck treating them?
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Yes it does assume, typically this argument is from Dr Rath's site.
| Quote: | Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new
diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of
the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a
multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side
effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the
market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer - but only
after the patient has been taking the drug for several years.
Have you ever heard of relative risk. Might it not be worth raising your
risk of cancer by 0.5% to reduce your risk of heart attack by 35%?
Comment:
Don't play up to John's lies. No controlled study of any statin drug,
including those running 5 years or more, has shown any increase in
cancer. There is not reason to imagine that statin-caused hepatoma in
rodents applies to people. Everything causes hepatoma in rodents.
8
The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth
leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by
the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal
of the American Medical Association, April 15, 1998).
COMMENT
The "factoid" has been repeatedly debunked on this forum. It simply
isn't true.
This fact is no
surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new
synthetic molecules. All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and
eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results
in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.
"Natural" molecules are no different from synthetic molecules. Your body
does not care, for example, whether a molecule of acetylsalicytic acid
came
from that aspirin or from the bark of a white willow tree.
COMMENT
Since there are no all-natural vitamin C supplement pills on the
market, one wonders whether John takes a multivitamin.
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Agreed, what you get in supplement form would be L Ascorbate, which isn't
what you would get in something like a piece of fruit.
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Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize
cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical "business with
disease" because they target the cellular cause of today's most common
diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.
The processes to manufacture vitamins can be patented, and the brand
names
for combinations of them can be registered as trademarks. Most vitamin
products are manufactured and sold profitably by the pharm giants. Even
the
products of the smaller "natural supplement" companies are mostly
manufactured and packaged under contract by the larger pharmaceutical
companies.
COMMENT:
Yes, last I checked the vitamin industry was mega-big business.
They've done quite well considering that the pharm cartel is
supposedly trying to put them out of business. In some cases the
businesses are the same, as you say, but not always. For example, most
vitamin E is make by ADM and Cargil. Hoffman LaRoche is now out of
that business. The hilarious thing is that this is due to just what
John was complaining about in the pharm industry-- a cartel of vitamin
manufacturers setting artificially high prices for vitamins. But it
didn't last.
John probably thinks the vitamin E in his supplements is lovingly
extracted from nuts by Keebler Elves in a tree. But if he really knew
where it came from and how it got there, I'm sure he'd be shocked.
12
Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the
pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with
defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the
fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success
of the pharmaceutical investment business.
Nonsense. See #11
Indeed.
(1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of
people. It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the
human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for
connective tissue stability and disease prevention.
Who is withholding this information. It's taught in high-school health
classes and is available in any nutrition text, and on hundreds of
websites.
COMMENT: Yeah, but John just learned about it last week while
rereading 20 year old bestselling books by Linus Pauling....
(2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is
through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread
lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances - molecules
that have been used by Nature for millennia.
Any substance active enough to have effects is likely to also have side
effects. This includes natural and synthetic molecules alike. Get over
it.
Can we talk about the side effects of opium, nicotene, and cocaine?
(3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural
health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed
its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading
drug export nations.
"Banning by law the dissemination of information" would violate the
principle of free speech--unlikely in the U.S.
Unless it was advertising information. There isn't a clear line
between advertising and free speech. In some cases the courts have
decided that it literally depends on the physical distance between the
printed matter and the pill. Or whether or not they are physically
connected. As the flyer or brochure creeps closer and closer to the
bottle, it functions more and more like a brand or label.
The first ammendment doesn't protect you prosecution for fraud when
you tell lies in selling a product. If it did, the first ammendment
would be an impregnable defense in all cases of consumer fraud.
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