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To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
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Rich
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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"PeterB" <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120425155.168240.185940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
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Peter, would you please identify just who is paying these "pharma bloggers"
so that I can contact them to demand my paycheck?
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Vashti
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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It wasn't a dark and stormy night when PeterB wrote:
| Quote: | Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this
forum are not those of casual posters interested in an honest
exchange. A number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
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It'd be more useful if you made a list of these "Pharma Bloggers" so
we all know who's who, don't you think?
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LadyLollipop
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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EXCELLENT! ****
Jan
(I'm still gonna call um the *gang* *;*)
"PeterB" <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120425155.168240.185940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
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cathyb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:49 am Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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PeterB wrote:
| Quote: | To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
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Evidence? Apart from people disagreeing with you?
| Quote: | Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
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But, Peter, this is what you do to anyone who disagrees with you, i.e.
anyone who doesn't mindlessly accept all of your assertions about
natural or real medicine. Are you being paid to do so?
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2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
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But, Peter, this is what you do to anyone who disagrees with you, i.e.
anyone who expresses displeasure with alt therapies or acceptance of
real medicine. Are you being paid to do so?
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3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
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But, Peter, this is what you do.
| Quote: | 4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
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A crime, I agree.
| Quote: | 5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
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Or possibly, you are a tad paranoid, and there is simply a general
consensus of which you are not a part.
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If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
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If on the other hand you read such a post in defense of natural
medicine, you must have stumbled on an "alt blogger" (see Peter's
unique usage of the term 'blogger').
| Quote: | Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert.
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"Alert"? Your paranoia is showing again.
| Quote: | If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why.
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Why would anyone find it odd? More people use real medicine than, for
instance, homeopathy, in the real world; why are you surprised to find
that reflected on health-related usenet newsgroups?
| Quote: | The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
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(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science"
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Now this is a joke, coming from someone who seems to think whale.to is
a repository of well researched information.
| Quote: | funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
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Please back up this allegation.
"Pharma blogger" as used by PeterB: Someone who disagrees with PeterB,
and is then regularly and baselessly accused of being paid to do so.
Believe me, Peter, no-one needs to be paid to disagree with you.
And you need to see someone about your paranoia. Thanks for the giggle
though.
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JohnDoe
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:59 am Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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Rich wrote:
| Quote: | "PeterB" <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120425155.168240.185940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
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--snip--
| Quote: | dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
Peter, would you please identify just who is paying these "pharma bloggers"
so that I can contact them to demand my paycheck?
--Rich
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Rich, we'll be discussing your pay at the next meeting of the
Illuminati. We feel your efforts in this newsgroup deserve a proper
reward. Of course, we'll also be discussing PeterB.
PS: don't contact us, we'll contact you. We know all about you, we're
the Illuminati! |
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cathyb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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JohnDoe wrote:
| Quote: | Rich wrote:
"PeterB" <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120425155.168240.185940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
--snip--
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
Peter, would you please identify just who is paying these "pharma bloggers"
so that I can contact them to demand my paycheck?
--Rich
Rich, we'll be discussing your pay at the next meeting of the
Illuminati. We feel your efforts in this newsgroup deserve a proper
reward. Of course, we'll also be discussing PeterB.
PS: don't contact us, we'll contact you. We know all about you, we're
the Illuminati!
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Hey, if there's money involved, count me in! I'm not as erudite as
others, but I put the effort in.
Cathy |
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Vashti
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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It wasn't a dark and stormy night when cathyb wrote:
| Quote: | JohnDoe wrote:
[snip]
Rich, we'll be discussing your pay at the next meeting of the
Illuminati. We feel your efforts in this newsgroup deserve a
proper reward. Of course, we'll also be discussing PeterB.
PS: don't contact us, we'll contact you. We know all about you,
we're the Illuminati!
Hey, if there's money involved, count me in! I'm not as erudite as
others, but I put the effort in.
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I must admit I'm a tad disappointed: I was hoping at the very least
that the Usenet Cabal(tinc) would rise up...
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cathyb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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Vashti wrote:
| Quote: | It wasn't a dark and stormy night when cathyb wrote:
JohnDoe wrote:
[snip]
Rich, we'll be discussing your pay at the next meeting of the
Illuminati. We feel your efforts in this newsgroup deserve a
proper reward. Of course, we'll also be discussing PeterB.
PS: don't contact us, we'll contact you. We know all about you,
we're the Illuminati!
Hey, if there's money involved, count me in! I'm not as erudite as
others, but I put the effort in.
I must admit I'm a tad disappointed: I was hoping at the very least
that the Usenet Cabal(tinc) would rise up...
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Oh, I'm up for a revolution, if that's what you want. Who's first
against the wall?:)
Cathy |
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Mark Probert
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| Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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PeterB wrote:
| Quote: | To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine.
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Hi stupid. Can you provide any proof of your bullshit?
These individuals can be referred to broadly as
| Quote: | "Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
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Wrong. The bullshit ideas are attacked, mocked and insulted. No one who
is a proponent of FactBasedMedicine wants to silence anyone. It is you
altNUTS that want to silence others. This post is EXACTLY the type of
post that you "think" can do that.
| Quote: | 2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
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Only when they become abusive, like coining terms such a pharmabloggers.
| Quote: | 3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
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Like you are doing here?
| Quote: | 4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
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That is because our thinking processes are faster.
| Quote: | 5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
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Like Jan Drew, You, Timmy Campbell, et al .....?????
| Quote: | If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
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I see, so you project your behavior, as demonstrated here, onto others.
| Quote: | virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
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Mark Probert
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yes, Jan has a taste for crap.
LadyLollipop wrote:
| Quote: | EXCELLENT! ****
Jan
(I'm still gonna call um the *gang* *;*)
"PeterB" <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120425155.168240.185940@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:07 am Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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The flood of unnecessarily vicious attacks upon you would tend to
support your point. I've long been puzzled by the large number of
anti-alternative medicine posters on this ng which is supposed to be an
alternative medicine ng.
PeterB wrote:
| Quote: | To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
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On 4 Jul 2005 17:07:15 -0700, gehayw@hotmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | The flood of unnecessarily vicious attacks upon you would tend to
support your point. I've long been puzzled by the large number of
anti-alternative medicine posters on this ng which is supposed to be an
alternative medicine ng.
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I think you are very confused. Misc.health.alternative is a newsgroup
to discuss pro AND con, the subject of alternative medicine. So the
group will have BOTH people who are advocates of alternative medicine
AND those who are skeptical and question various alternative medicine
modalities.
Some people seem to be of the mistaken notion that only people who
believe in every aspect of alternative medicine should post here and
no one should question any aspect of the field. This is not a support
group for those who are true believers of the various alternative
medicine claims. It is a group for discussion. Alt. medicine is NOT a
religion although there are many who act as if it is.
Aloha,
Rich
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cathyb
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:25 am Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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gehayw@hotmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | The flood of unnecessarily vicious attacks upon you would tend to
support your point.
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The only point it supports is that people don't like being viciously
attacked and accused of nefarious activities on no evidence at all for
the crime of disagreeing with PeterB.
| Quote: | I've long been puzzled by the large number of
anti-alternative medicine posters on this ng which is supposed to be an
alternative medicine ng.
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What, only credulous people who will accept anything regardless of the
evidence are allowed to discuss alternative medicine?
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| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: Re: WARNING: Industry is Blogging These NewsGroups to Mainta |
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<gehayw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | The flood of unnecessarily vicious attacks upon you would tend to
support your point. I've long been puzzled by the large number of
anti-alternative medicine posters on this ng which is supposed to be an
alternative medicine ng.
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Your post will be followed by those who are the worst attackers, with all
kinds of lies.
For some reason they feel the need to personally attack.
Some have a long repeated pattern, so ashamed of their posts, they have
nuked them.
Most who do the attacking have no experience with alternative medicine
whatsoever, they do it to protect the powers that be.
Jan
Troll Alert!
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PeterB wrote:
To : All participants and readers of misc.health.alternative + other
health-related newsgroups
Please be aware that many comments and responses posted to this forum
are not those of casual posters interested in an honest exchange. A
number of
individuals with ties to industry are engaging an effort to shape
public sentiment about the risks of mainstream medicine while
denigrating the benefits and validity
of natural medicine. These individuals can be referred to broadly as
"Pharma Bloggers"(*). Pharma Bloggers on usenet don't promote a
specific company or
product, as might be the case with standard "blogging" on a weblog.
Most of these people are likely to have an association with a PR
campaign whose "blogging"
efforts are underwritten by the media and marketing groups of industry.
Here are a few points to remember while participating in usenet
newsgroups:
1. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use intimidation, mockery, and insults to
silence those who express belief or interest in natural medicine.
2. Pharma Bloggers on usenet attack those who express displeasure with
mainstream medicine or who express acceptance of natural medicine.
3. Pharma Bloggers on usenet post the majority of their responses
simply to bury the comments of others; they also strive obsessively to
have the last word.
4. Pharma Bloggers on usenet are much faster at posting than casual
participants; they almost always respond first to a new thread,
question, or observation.
5. Pharma Bloggers on usenet use multiple "bloggers" in a swap-&-relay
fashion to create an aura of the "consensus view" in an effort to
isolate unwary posters.
If you find yourself reading a response that is overly dramatic or
unexplainably vicious toward another poster, and if that response is a
defense of mainstream
medicine, you can be sure you have stumbled upon a "Pharma Blogger."
Unfortunately, there are more of these individuals posting to usenet on
a daily basis than
virtually anyone else, which is why I am posting this alert. If you
find it odd that so few people on health-related usenet newsgroups are
adherents of natural
medicine, now you know why. The Pharma Bloggers have over-run the
various newsgroups with their dogma, insults, and sappy bromides.
(*) Pharma Blogger:
1. An individual who uses the Internet to promote and defend
maintstream medicine while denigrating natural medicine approaches; to
attack others for expressing
a preference for natural medicine; to insult those who question the
value of mainstream medicine; and to support mainstream medicine by
citing a variety of "junk medical science" funded by industry for the
purpose of establishing markets for marginally effective, and often
dangerous, medical products and devices.
PeterB
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